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		<title>By: Momentus Weighted Shoulder Turn Vest &#124; Balance Trainers</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jan 2014 07:28:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Richard Chen</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jan 2014 18:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It was once said that power hitters tend to use a &quot;strong&quot; grip position rather than a &quot;weak&quot; (or &quot;neutral&quot;) grip position.  A &quot;strong&quot; grip position has the &quot;v&#039;s&quot; of the hands pointing to the rear shoulder (ie. right shoulder for a right hander.)  A &quot;weak&quot; or now called &quot;neutral&quot; grip position has the &quot;v&#039;s&quot; of the hands pointing to the chin during setup.  A medium &quot;strong&quot; grip position will have the &quot;v&#039;s&quot; of the hands pointing between the chin and the rear shoulder.  Power hitter Sam Snead&#039;s book &quot;The Driver&quot; diagrams having his v&#039;s pointing at his rear shoulder.  Nicklaus has a medium strong position.  With a strong grip position, there is less need to rotate the hands through the release nor backswing, while a neutral grip results in more turning of the hands and forearms during the release.  Since in a powerful swing, the clubhead moves faster, so that the downswing completes in less time, so that there is less time to perform the hand-turning-to-square action during the release, a stronger grip has the advantage of not having the need to turn the hands as much during the release, as compared to a neutral grip position.  With a stronger grip position, Nicklaus does not need to have any conscious squaring of the hands during the release, while Hogan with a neutral grip during the later phase of his career described extensively in his book on perfecting the release, including having the waggling of the hands at address as a major factor.  Johnny Miller uses a neutral grip position, and he promotes a giant size type of waggle drill of taking the club back fully into a full backswing, and than going into a limited fast downswing that can stop the clubhead just before contacting the ball as in a normal waggle.


Waggling can be useful for developing a good release; however, in the old days golfers waggle extensively, and the average golfers slice extensively.  The problem is that the normal type of waggling actually encourages an outside-to-in type of swing path during the release.  The normal waggle is done with the hips and shoulders square to the target line (ie. the hips and shoulders parallel to the target line.)  In the actual downswing, the hips are open to the target line during the final release, and at impact.  So too are the shoulders slightly open at impact and during the final release phase in the actual downswing.  The standard waggling with the driver clubhead tracing a path more or less parallel to the target line, and to the hips and shoulders will trace an outside-to-in clubhead swing path if the hips and shoulders are turned opened as during the actual downswing just before impact.  This can be easily seen by waggling back and forth rapidly at a normal address position with the hips and shoulder fairly square to the target line, and then turning the hip and shoulders slightly open while continuing the back and forth waggling.  The clubhead starts to trace out an outside-to-in path as the hips and shoulders turn open during the waggling.


Since the hips and shoulders are square to the target line during the address, and during the waggling, while the hips and shoulders are open during the actual downswing final release and impact phases, the waggling should be done with the shoulders somewhat closed by turning the head to face back away from the target, and the waggling of the clubhead in a somewhat exaggerated inside-to-outside waggling swing path, which is still more or less parallel with the shoulder line, as the shoulders are too closed somewhat.  In this manner, if the hips were to turn open during the waggle as if during the actual downswing, the waggling of the clubhead will still be more straight into the ball with a slight inside-out flavor, rather than a outside-to-in swing path.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was once said that power hitters tend to use a &#8220;strong&#8221; grip position rather than a &#8220;weak&#8221; (or &#8220;neutral&#8221;) grip position.  A &#8220;strong&#8221; grip position has the &#8220;v&#8217;s&#8221; of the hands pointing to the rear shoulder (ie. right shoulder for a right hander.)  A &#8220;weak&#8221; or now called &#8220;neutral&#8221; grip position has the &#8220;v&#8217;s&#8221; of the hands pointing to the chin during setup.  A medium &#8220;strong&#8221; grip position will have the &#8220;v&#8217;s&#8221; of the hands pointing between the chin and the rear shoulder.  Power hitter Sam Snead&#8217;s book &#8220;The Driver&#8221; diagrams having his v&#8217;s pointing at his rear shoulder.  Nicklaus has a medium strong position.  With a strong grip position, there is less need to rotate the hands through the release nor backswing, while a neutral grip results in more turning of the hands and forearms during the release.  Since in a powerful swing, the clubhead moves faster, so that the downswing completes in less time, so that there is less time to perform the hand-turning-to-square action during the release, a stronger grip has the advantage of not having the need to turn the hands as much during the release, as compared to a neutral grip position.  With a stronger grip position, Nicklaus does not need to have any conscious squaring of the hands during the release, while Hogan with a neutral grip during the later phase of his career described extensively in his book on perfecting the release, including having the waggling of the hands at address as a major factor.  Johnny Miller uses a neutral grip position, and he promotes a giant size type of waggle drill of taking the club back fully into a full backswing, and than going into a limited fast downswing that can stop the clubhead just before contacting the ball as in a normal waggle.</p>
<p>Waggling can be useful for developing a good release; however, in the old days golfers waggle extensively, and the average golfers slice extensively.  The problem is that the normal type of waggling actually encourages an outside-to-in type of swing path during the release.  The normal waggle is done with the hips and shoulders square to the target line (ie. the hips and shoulders parallel to the target line.)  In the actual downswing, the hips are open to the target line during the final release, and at impact.  So too are the shoulders slightly open at impact and during the final release phase in the actual downswing.  The standard waggling with the driver clubhead tracing a path more or less parallel to the target line, and to the hips and shoulders will trace an outside-to-in clubhead swing path if the hips and shoulders are turned opened as during the actual downswing just before impact.  This can be easily seen by waggling back and forth rapidly at a normal address position with the hips and shoulder fairly square to the target line, and then turning the hip and shoulders slightly open while continuing the back and forth waggling.  The clubhead starts to trace out an outside-to-in path as the hips and shoulders turn open during the waggling.</p>
<p>Since the hips and shoulders are square to the target line during the address, and during the waggling, while the hips and shoulders are open during the actual downswing final release and impact phases, the waggling should be done with the shoulders somewhat closed by turning the head to face back away from the target, and the waggling of the clubhead in a somewhat exaggerated inside-to-outside waggling swing path, which is still more or less parallel with the shoulder line, as the shoulders are too closed somewhat.  In this manner, if the hips were to turn open during the waggle as if during the actual downswing, the waggling of the clubhead will still be more straight into the ball with a slight inside-out flavor, rather than a outside-to-in swing path.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Johansson</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jan 2014 10:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dan your technique bound atm.
Shouldnt need to meet a specific position.
You need to move to your left in the back swing to be able to create enough room at impact to find the ball....

Currently your moving forward from your top into impact (lack of C7 stability) which creates the lack of room at impact (finding the ball). so your out of position due to a bit flawed back swing take away turn action. if your pelvis dont move along the shoulder turn your in trouble.

IMHO.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan your technique bound atm.<br />
Shouldnt need to meet a specific position.<br />
You need to move to your left in the back swing to be able to create enough room at impact to find the ball&#8230;.</p>
<p>Currently your moving forward from your top into impact (lack of C7 stability) which creates the lack of room at impact (finding the ball). so your out of position due to a bit flawed back swing take away turn action. if your pelvis dont move along the shoulder turn your in trouble.</p>
<p>IMHO.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Chen</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Chen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jan 2014 15:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[While at the fitting, have them bring out some 4-woods to see what kind of shot can be produced.  There should be a better than even chance that the shots produced by the 4-wood will be amazingly straight and long with even effortlessness within the first half bucket of balls.  First hit some teed up 4-woods with the ball tee up fairly low like for iron shots off par-3 tees.  Then some 4-wood shots off the grass.


On YouTube with the search of &quot;golf slot&quot; parameter, Jim McLean gives a very clear description of the &quot;slot&quot; in 14 minute video of the concept of the &quot;slot&quot; with three different types of backswings to get to the start of the slot position.


He also created the concept of the X-factor in regards to how some top pros generate distance.  However, there are other ways to generate great distances.  Not everybody is born to be way over six feet, and start swinging golf clubs at an early age of six month old to be flexible in making huge shoulder turns.  Other ways are building up the hands and forearms like Hogan in five fundamentals book if these are not strong for a powerful release, or like Sarazen, who hit zillions of nails during his first job as a carpenter&#039;s helper (ie. serving as a human nail gun before its invention.)  Setting up closer to the ball so that the hands and arms swing closer to the body to automatically produce faster swing speed, using the physics law of the conservation of angular momentum like figure skaters pulling their arms in to generate fast spins.  Good and faster foot work also increases the body turn.  Some top pros talks about using leg drive to add to distance on very long holes, although some of them have kneed problems as they get older.  Hogan is said to put extra spikes in his rear shoe to give an extra push, and Woods talks about an extra push with the leading leg when faced with needing extra distance; however, he does have kneed issues, although an article on the web claims that was a result of participating in a navy seal course.  Nicklaus uses guide lines from the ball to a point a few feet in front of the ball to improve alignment of the swing, which lets him swing &quot;all out&quot; right from the top of the backswing (after the leading heel is replanted, as he lifts the leading heel high off of the ground during the backswing) to gain more clubhead speed.  visualizing alignment guide lines anywhere from the ball up to the landing point helps to swing faster during the first part of the downswing, and during the release to generate faster clubhead speed while still getting accurate direction.  Nicklaus favors the fade, which is his natural shot, so that he can swing hard and avoid trouble.  He claims that hitting a perfectly straight shot is difficult to do consistently, so that choosing either fading or drawing will increase consistency.  


It is claimed that the great baseball batters are able to see the bat in the act of striking the baseball.  It is pretty certain that no golfer is able to see the clubhead in the act of striking the golf ball.  However, many golfers can mentally visualized the clubhead position, and the clubface orientation at impact.  Since the turning of the clubface during the final release is not fast, the closing and the squaring of the clubface during the final release should be able to be felt via visualization, so that  the clubface angle can be &quot;seen&quot; when the clubface strikes the ball.  The same goes for the back of the leading hand, and the top of the leading forearm orientation during the final release and at impact, that the orientation of these can be &quot;seen&quot; by visualization, so that these turn to face toward the target direction during the final release, so that these are square to the target at impact.  A square clubface imparts the greatest energy from the clubhead to the ball to generate distance.  Developing a great ability to visualize the squaring of the above allows the harder releases to generate more clubhead speed without the fear of directional wildness.


There are many ways to generate clubhead speed.  The lucky ones born with great physical ability to generate great x-factors have unique abilities that other may not be able to copy.  Sanders has a very short backswing and did well.  The laws of physics are set in concrete.  Swinging the arms close to the body will automatically generate more free speed.  Many top golfers talk about having the arms (and hands) swing close to the body, and setting up close to the ball.  Grip pressure is on the lighter side like holding and throwing a baseball.  Miller talks about having the a one finger gap of the rear index finger to provide more power to the club.  Visualizing swinging the clubhead to ninety of so yards tends to produce 270 to 300 yard drives fairly effortlessly, specially coupled with swinging the arms (both) and the hands close to the body during the downswing.  There are many ways to generate distance.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While at the fitting, have them bring out some 4-woods to see what kind of shot can be produced.  There should be a better than even chance that the shots produced by the 4-wood will be amazingly straight and long with even effortlessness within the first half bucket of balls.  First hit some teed up 4-woods with the ball tee up fairly low like for iron shots off par-3 tees.  Then some 4-wood shots off the grass.</p>
<p>On YouTube with the search of &#8220;golf slot&#8221; parameter, Jim McLean gives a very clear description of the &#8220;slot&#8221; in 14 minute video of the concept of the &#8220;slot&#8221; with three different types of backswings to get to the start of the slot position.</p>
<p>He also created the concept of the X-factor in regards to how some top pros generate distance.  However, there are other ways to generate great distances.  Not everybody is born to be way over six feet, and start swinging golf clubs at an early age of six month old to be flexible in making huge shoulder turns.  Other ways are building up the hands and forearms like Hogan in five fundamentals book if these are not strong for a powerful release, or like Sarazen, who hit zillions of nails during his first job as a carpenter&#8217;s helper (ie. serving as a human nail gun before its invention.)  Setting up closer to the ball so that the hands and arms swing closer to the body to automatically produce faster swing speed, using the physics law of the conservation of angular momentum like figure skaters pulling their arms in to generate fast spins.  Good and faster foot work also increases the body turn.  Some top pros talks about using leg drive to add to distance on very long holes, although some of them have kneed problems as they get older.  Hogan is said to put extra spikes in his rear shoe to give an extra push, and Woods talks about an extra push with the leading leg when faced with needing extra distance; however, he does have kneed issues, although an article on the web claims that was a result of participating in a navy seal course.  Nicklaus uses guide lines from the ball to a point a few feet in front of the ball to improve alignment of the swing, which lets him swing &#8220;all out&#8221; right from the top of the backswing (after the leading heel is replanted, as he lifts the leading heel high off of the ground during the backswing) to gain more clubhead speed.  visualizing alignment guide lines anywhere from the ball up to the landing point helps to swing faster during the first part of the downswing, and during the release to generate faster clubhead speed while still getting accurate direction.  Nicklaus favors the fade, which is his natural shot, so that he can swing hard and avoid trouble.  He claims that hitting a perfectly straight shot is difficult to do consistently, so that choosing either fading or drawing will increase consistency.  </p>
<p>It is claimed that the great baseball batters are able to see the bat in the act of striking the baseball.  It is pretty certain that no golfer is able to see the clubhead in the act of striking the golf ball.  However, many golfers can mentally visualized the clubhead position, and the clubface orientation at impact.  Since the turning of the clubface during the final release is not fast, the closing and the squaring of the clubface during the final release should be able to be felt via visualization, so that  the clubface angle can be &#8220;seen&#8221; when the clubface strikes the ball.  The same goes for the back of the leading hand, and the top of the leading forearm orientation during the final release and at impact, that the orientation of these can be &#8220;seen&#8221; by visualization, so that these turn to face toward the target direction during the final release, so that these are square to the target at impact.  A square clubface imparts the greatest energy from the clubhead to the ball to generate distance.  Developing a great ability to visualize the squaring of the above allows the harder releases to generate more clubhead speed without the fear of directional wildness.</p>
<p>There are many ways to generate clubhead speed.  The lucky ones born with great physical ability to generate great x-factors have unique abilities that other may not be able to copy.  Sanders has a very short backswing and did well.  The laws of physics are set in concrete.  Swinging the arms close to the body will automatically generate more free speed.  Many top golfers talk about having the arms (and hands) swing close to the body, and setting up close to the ball.  Grip pressure is on the lighter side like holding and throwing a baseball.  Miller talks about having the a one finger gap of the rear index finger to provide more power to the club.  Visualizing swinging the clubhead to ninety of so yards tends to produce 270 to 300 yard drives fairly effortlessly, specially coupled with swinging the arms (both) and the hands close to the body during the downswing.  There are many ways to generate distance.</p>
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