Much fitter now

Warning:  This blog is way too geeky about golf specs :)

Earlier this week I had my first “real” club fitting.

The fitting was done by two local Nike fitters and we did the session at Tualatin Island Greens driving range so that we could hit off grass and use a FlightScope to track the spin and ball flight as precisely as possible.

For those of you who are not familiar with this, a club fitting is the process in which you figure out exactly what club head/shaft combination fit your swing.  There are so many options out there it can be overwhelming if you just go to a golf super store and try to pick out a set for yourself.  If you golf at least a couple of times a month, though, you should have a professional size up your swing and put you in the optimal gear.  I’m excited to get the new sticks next week and see what happens with my shots and game.

The fitting started with a 6-iron.  We tracked 4 shots with my current “gamer club” (which is a Nike VRS forged blade with Dynalite Gold shafts) and then tested a couple of different shafts in the Pro Combo set until we found one that both went straight, had the right RPMs of spin and good distance.  At this point, I’m not exactly sure what the final shaft was, but I will post all of the specs of the new gear the day I get it.  What was interesting was that my average with most of the shafts was 170 yards total, but with a couple of them I was getting 185 yards total after 175 carry.  This bump in distance will go through all of the clubs, so the new potential will be an additional 15 yards to each iron, changing the pitching wedge from my 130 yard club to my 145 yarder and so on.  The best part of that is that I will close a previous gap I had in my set at the 200 yard mark.  200 yards will now be right between a 5 and 4-iron, whereas I could never seem to get that out of my previous 4-iron.  Not exactly PGA distance, but the swing speed is getting better and so is the yardage.

After the irons, I tested out some fairway woods through the same process.  I’ve had a huge issue with my current fairway woods’ shafts being too flexible. When I had my first fitting for the driver and woods I had (to that date) never swung any of those clubs nor did I have a clue how you were supposed to swing them.  The fitters back then made an educated guess as to what I would need in my bag, but I have developed a much better swing since then and have gotten stronger in my core, producing more velocity in the swing, hence this being my first “real” fitting.  They had me swing a few stiff shaft choices until the right one came up.  With this new shaft I was getting about 20 more yards in my woods and 3-hybrid, which is desperately needed distance when trying to reach the longer par 5s in two.  In my current set, I have never felt comfortable with a fairway wood in my hand because they feel like noodles when swinging; having the stiffer club in hand made it so that I could just swing away and trust that the club head would be where it is supposed to be at impact.  Confidence in your clubs is crucial.  If you feel like something bad will happen with one (or more) of your clubs then it probably will.  Grip it and rip it, just make sure you trust it.

The driver fitting was last.  I swung a handful of different drivers.  Some hooked, sliced, went high, shot out low.  They were all over the place even though I was putting the same swing on the ball.  I was amazed at how much discrepancy there was between the different shafts.  Even with the same club head, the shafts produced dramatically different trajectories.  There is truly a combination out there for everyone.  After giving  them all a shot, we found a combo that was sending the ball the right height and distance.  I’ll post the specs soon, but I do know that is was a Nike VRS 9.5 degree.  What I have been using is a Mach Speed Black 10.5, but I hit the ball too high with my current driver and it has too much spin so lands and actually rolls back instead of releasing.  The new one was sending the ball off at a nice level and then releasing with 10-20 yards of roll.  Very positive signs.  I was hitting the range balls 275 yards total.  Not sure exactly how much more distance a good ball will provide, but I’d take 275 down the middle any day.  My swing speed, though, is not near where I want it to be.  I was swinging the same way that I do in an actual round (not swinging out of my shoes, but rather at 80 percent) and the speed was between 100-105mph.  PGA Tour average is about 113mph, so there is a 10 percent increase that needs to happen over the next few years.  The good news is that my smash factor was 1.50, which is pretty darn good.

It will probably take a couple of weeks to adjust to the new sticks, but there is nothing except excitement about their arrival.  Again, anyone serious about golf needs to get fit for clubs.  I think it will make a huge difference down the line and am glad to have gone through the experience.  I know more about both my gear and my swing now.  You know what they say about knowledge..

Has anyone else had a good or bad experience with a club fitting?  Had any major improvements or setbacks?

  • Luke

    Dan,
    This is my fourth year golfing. I had crappy knock-off clubs and had gotten my handicap down to a 14. The only real club I had was the Nike Dymo2 9.5 driver. This May I got a new set of PING G15 irons, wedges, and woods. I got the PING I15 hybrid because the g15 hybrid is ugly.
    Since getting the PINGs I hit the ball alot farther and have gotten the handicap down to a 9.2. I was fitted but wound up being standard size anyway. They gave me stiff shafts. The biggest difference was in the driver, I used to fight blocks/fades and now I hit a nice straight/tiny draw.
    I think within a week you will post some of the best rounds you’ve ever played. Before getting the new clubs I had never broken 80, now i have done it five times. My low round was 81, now its 75! GOOD LUCK!

  • Charlie

    Discouraging news from the East Coast. For over 10 years I’ve played with clubs that were fitted by one of the best in the business — a national award-winning guy in Greenwich, CT, Jacques Intriere. Why discouraging? Because I can’t blame the tools…

  • Todd

    Sounds like the way to do it. Hitting off a lie board into a net 5 feet in front of you never told me much :)

  • williamevanl

    Average on PGA tour.
    Driver……………269 yards
    3-wood………….242
    5-wood………….229
    15/18 hybrid……224
    3-iron……………211
    4-iron……………203
    5-iron……………193
    6-iron……………182
    7-iron……………171
    8-iron……………159
    9-iron……………147
    PW………………135 yards

  • Charlie

    William, Where are you getting these distance averages? On the PGA Tour website, through June 19th, Nick O’ Hearn is ranked 184th with an average of 264.6. With a 268.9 average, Chris DiMarco is ranked 179th.

    Interestingly, Luke Donald is ranked 178th in driving distance (269.4) but according to the World Golf Rankings he’s the #1 player in the world…

  • Richard

    The stats posted by William probably aren’t far off. You have to realize that the amount of PGA Tour Pro’s is relatively small and that the distance gaps between players is also relatively small. What makes these guys good is their mental fortitude and repeatable golf swings. Hence the reason why Luke Donald is ranked (seemingly) low on driving distance, but able to claim the #1 World Ranking.

    On to the subject of club fitting…

    Club fitting is something I would love to be able to afford one day. Over the past few years I have slowly upgraded my sticks (used clubs off globalgolf though) and seen a dramatic improvement. But a fully custom set tailored to my swing would help drive those numbers way down. Glad to hear Dan got properly fitted and I’m looking forward to see what comes from it.

  • williamevanl

    http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff139/jaridyard/Screenshot2009-11-14at185651.png

    Honestly though, it’s all over the internet. Just google PGA average yardages per club or something similar. There’s a whole world of people out there that discuss this stuff every day. :)

    Some of it’s from trackman at various events. You can also just look up individual golfers Tiger as an example:
    Driver: 285 yards (of carry)
    3 Wd: 265 yards (of carry)
    2 Iron: 245 yards
    3 Iron: 230 yards
    4 Iron: 220 yards
    5 Iron: 208 yards
    6 Iron: 190 yards
    7 Iron: 172 yards
    8 Iron: 158 yards
    9 Iron: 142 yards
    Pitching Wedge: 128 yards
    Sand Wedge: 106 yards
    Lob Wedge (60°): 92 yards

    People get held up on the yardages but it has almost nothing to do with anything. The real magic is the quality of contact and control they have on each shot. Tiger hits his pw 128 with more control than Dan could ever imagine. :P

  • Mike G

    About a month ago I got fitted out for a new set of irons. I have been playing seriously for 4 years and had been using a standard set of Mizuno MX 25′s which I was actually very satisfied with. But after quite a bit of urging from my coach who felt I had now got to the stage where the standard fit clubs were holding me back I eventually caved and went for the fitting. As I am 6”3” and apparently have short arm length for my size they needed to add some extra length to the clubs. They also adjusted the lie angle by 3 degrees to make the shaft more upright and set me up with thicker grips than the standard. I also tried a variety of different shafts to get one that gave the best results for my swing.

    Whilst it did take me a little while to get used to the changes I can say that now I definitely feel a lot more comfortable in my set up position. When it comes to my actual shots I have added a bit of distance but wouldn’t say its a massive difference. The 2 areas where I do notice big improvement is 1) the trajectory of my shots is now much better. 2) I find that on average I feel like I am getting much better ball contact and am much more consistent. I hit less bad shots and the bad ones aren’t quite as bad as they used to be.

    So overall I can say the results are positive and I am glad I made the investment. But if I were going to advise anyone, especially if you are working on a limited budget then I would say the priority should be to really work on your swing, if you are going to spend money spend it on a good coach before forking out for an expensive set of new clubs.

    Ask yourself where is the greatest value…the swing or the equipment? Afterall I am pretty confident Tiger would still be able to beat any of us whilst using a standard off the shelf set of clubs.

    Mike